Christensen Arms ????

[krake2]

hey guys my dad is going to start shootin long range also and want to get an new rifle he is thinking about getting a Christensen Arms still dont now about the caliber. or the savage savage 12 F class in 6.5x284 with the 30" barrel. he also is looking at the rem 700 sendero in the 7mm ultra mag be want a good that can shoot good out to 800 yard for elk and deer. thot you guys know alot of guns so figured i would ask you guys

[Rinky]

I wouldnt go with the RUM, its more than what you would need out to 1000 yards, the recoil is gonna be much worse and loading 180gr bergers wont fit very well in the mag, Im buying a 700 Rem Sendero SF-II in 7mm Mag, nothing beats the BCs and recoil of less than 3500ft/lbs.

IF you would put a break on the 7mm RUM it'd recoil alot less but you'd almost definately need ear protection.

[krake2]

ok the sendero SFII will be have any work to the rifle to make it shoot good out to 800 yards. or or after getting a good bullet and scope should be good once he shoots alot and works he way out??

[paphil]

I don't think you can go wrong with a 700 Sendero in 7mm or 7mm ultra mag . They have a decent trigger that can be set at 2.5 pounds and most are extreamly accurate with berger bullets and Best of the west loads. The ultra mag probably would be best with a muzzel brake. The used sendero 7mm ultra mag that I got had only trigger work, no bedding other than factory and shot a 5" group at 1000 yds out of the box.

[krake2]

wow thanks.. is the berger bullets you shoot handloads. i dont hand load and my dad dont either are the HSM bergers bullets anygood??

[lkhanson]

I called HSM about loading up some 7mm Remington Ultra-Mag bullets with the Berger 180 Grains for my Sendero SF. They don't sell them as part of their line of ammo with Berger bullets. They indicated they would be custom rounds and they would be looking at 3-6 months out for loading them up.

When I bought my Huskemaw scope, I also bought 5 boxes of 7mm RUM from the BOTW guys - Long Range Store up in Burlington, WY. They were a little steep - $80 a box ($4 a bullet), so, I have started to get into reloading (still waiting on CCI 250 Primers from Cabelas).

My Ultra-Mag doesn't have a muzzle break, but it has a mercury tube in the stock. It has less felt recoil than .30-06. It's great to shoot, but, if you don't want to get into reloading, and want to use HSM Ammo with Berger VLDs, get an LR-800, LR-1000, Sendero, etc. in 7mm Mag (well, get what caliber and manufacturer you want 6.5x284, .264, 300 win mag, etc., - there are plenty of rifles that will perform well at long distance, as long as you have the right bullets/ballistics and optics).

[krake2]

thanks alot on that i think we might go with the 7mm or 300 in the rem sendero will will buy the HSM beger bullets and hope they shot good.

[sendero7]

You may want to take a look at the Savage 6.5-284. Had a chance to shoot one back in the summer and it's tack driving machine that will take you out to 1000yd. Alot cheaper and more accurate than the christensen arms. Don't know much about manufactured rounds in the 6.5-284. If you're going to shoot long range its going to be hard to avoid reloading your own ammo. Good luck!!

[krake2]

yeah i know it will be just never been around anyone that does that . would like to seat down and watch someone show me rather then reading how im better that way. so are you talking about the savage12 FT in 6.5x284 with the 30in barrel? is that a better buy YOU think then the rem 700 sendero in 7mm or 3oo win??

[Rinky]

The 6.5x284 uses smaller bullets around 140gr and will have a a bit less recoil than the 7mm Rem Mag, but other than that is almost ballisticly identical to the 7mm Rem mag. Personally Im totally sold on the 7mm Rem mag, especially if youre not handloading, you can buy a box of fusions in a pinch in some podunk town for 30 bucks.

If youve got time to purchase ammo, HSM makes 7mm rem mag with bergers so youre all set.

Just my 2c.

Edit: I also just purchased a sendero in 7mm should be here tomorrow US optics base and a leupold mark 4 to set her right. Theyre real shooters with little to no work needed.

[krake2]

yeah good point but is the factory HSM beger bullets good at long range

[Rinky]

I think they would be great if they group well at a 100 yards for you (under an inch) other than that, since its factory loaded ammo, other than consistency from round to round its hard to say.

I havent used them, but I did read in an article that HSM made ammo in 7mm rem mag for the secret service a few years ago, they still might. Not sure how accurate that article was but ... best you can do is give em a try, its gonna vary gun to gun.

[wildcat 264 winny]

Are you strictly just target shooting or will you be hunting with it too? If not hunting I would go with the Savage 6.5/284. But if hunting is included as well, the Sendero is hard to beat. Difference being in weight, mass, and barrel length, unless you don't mind packing a heavy 30" pipe in a piece of plastic. Both rounds will get the job done, but for just paper punching, I'd go with the 6.5-284.

[Rinky]

Yeah, exactly what he said, if you ever wanna do both the sendero is awesome. If youre only punching holes, the savage in 6.5x284 is excellent but too heavy to really use hunting.

[krake2]

thanks guys i will be a hunting rifle i hunt the oregon coast and hunt timber with my tikka 270wsm but want something for long shots on a clearing from ridge to ridge